9/11 conspiracy poll

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your opinion on 9/11

no idea or no opinion
2
14%
no idea or no opinion
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29%
no idea or no opinion
3
21%
no idea or no opinion
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No votes
no idea or no opinion
3
21%
no idea or no opinion
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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9/11 conspiracy poll

Post by big.g » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:20 am

Hi folks. on the strength of the other thread thats ongoing, thoight I'd run a poll to see who thinks what about the 9/11 attacks.

dont really want a discussion on here, thats wot the other threads for, just a poll to see what the general opinion is.



ps - forgot to make this poll annon so we can see who votes in what way. at first I was going to re-do the poll to make it annon, but phuq it!!!!!! if youve got a view you should be prepared to argue your corner!!1 :D:D
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Post by Shadow Reaper » Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:36 am

Just be careful with this one, there are a few flaws i'd pick out with the poll. For instance it might be worth defining what 'governments' means, and whether you infact mean the US government, other governments around the world, or perhaps agencies and institutions like the CIA, NSA etc.

Take that as a bit of useful advice, i've done statistics and biased polls before. However, dont let this thread get out of hand.

Remember, its still a conspiracy theory. There is no substantial evidence, or a note with Bush's signature on it, that says anyone in the US government 'allowed' the attack to happen.

I for one have no opinion that i'll share here.

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Post by big.g » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:08 pm

Hi Shadow reaper. thanx for the friendly advice.

as i stated, this wasn't meant to be a thread but simply a poll to see what the general opinion was. there's another thread in this section for people to air their views etc etc.

however...........

since you state that there is no evidence - can I ask, do you not think that Larry Silverstein declaring that HE took the decision to pull WTC 7 (fact) is hard proof that they were ready to do so in advance. surely that in itself is PROOF that there were explosives and detonators pre-planted inside the building???
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Post by Sheriden » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:44 am

big.g wrote:since you state that there is no evidence - can I ask, do you not think that Larry Silverstein declaring that HE took the decision to pull WTC 7 (fact) is hard proof that they were ready to do so in advance. surely that in itself is PROOF that there were explosives and detonators pre-planted inside the building???
No offense, as I'm one who does not support the official report on 9/11, but Silverstein saying he pilled WTC 7 does NOT equal proof of explosives being used. His statement is much too vague to conclude just about anything from it.

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Post by Gust0o » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:08 am

We 'pull' projects all the time, thankfully without the need to resort to explosives. It could have meant anything, and given the current usage of the term, more likely meant 'pull out' or disengage from, especially given the context. As WTC7 seemed endangered, and badly placed from the perspective of managing the developing crisis, it seems almost certain that the note was to disengage from the building, which is as happened in reality. I don't think we need look for any other, highly speculative, answers.

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Post by Texas Ranger » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:50 am

the truth is BZB planned & executed the whole thing WTC 7 was a mistake caused by the strange chemical "beer", his system had not yet adapted to the chemicals so a few thing went askew. from the debriefing it became clear that his motives were to cause the biggest conspiricy theory in the world allowing his plans for world domination to advance to the next level un-noticed.

Warning this must not be discussed out with the gaming union as bzb is a expert in ms train simulator, any contriving this warning may find a simulated train crashing throught there home!.

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Post by Shadow of Light » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:43 pm

tex mate yer wrong it was the builders bzb's mum had in to do the kitchen they where actually working wtc7 and did not know there was no shelves to hold up the floors like in bzb's house :)

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Post by Texas Ranger » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:46 pm

Thats who he contracted to do some of the work ... he figured the done such a good job he would get the to do the kitchen

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Post by Worf Van Saar » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:21 pm

Why would you show 5 year old footage a week before the 9/11 anniversary if it wasn't to keep the american ppl living in fear and stop them from questioning the bush administration.

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Post by big.g » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:58 pm

Worf Van Saar wrote:Why would you show 5 year old footage a week before the 9/11 anniversary if it wasn't to keep the american ppl living in fear and stop them from questioning the bush administration.
exactly the point i was going to make. more scaremongering so that they can introduce more laws, tax us more monies, reduce our freedoms and untimately, build an excuse to invade iran.

why are we still in iraq????? since it's now common knowledge that there are/were NO wmd's there (which was the whole point of the invasion), should we have not pulled out at that point and simply said "uh-oh - sorry guys, we made a mistake". but no, we keep our troops there who are being slaughtered on a daily basis. we keep kidnappin iraqi's and torturing them on the basis that "they dont approve of the us/uk occupation - well they must be terrorists then". wait a mo - penny's just dropped here. OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there is simply NO reason atall for any of our troops to be in that country. anybody who wishes to present a viable reason is most welcom to do so here. does nobody find it strange that we invaded a country that had NO connection whatsoever with the Al Queda, Taliban, Osama, Afganistan??? nobody find that strange??? could it simply be that texan oil fields are running dry???? lol.

same with iran - the us government is using the excuse that they "may be looking into the possibility of developing a neuclear weapon" to invade a country that poses NO threat to them whatsoever. total bulls**t. the most armed country in the world wanting to invade a country for trying to develop itself. does the USA not have the biggest neuclear arsenal on the whole planet????? that's the most hypocritical thing ive ever heard: "aye, WE'VE got thousands of neuclear warheads, but YOU'RE not allowed one"!!!!!!!!!! TOTAL CRYBABY STUFF BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND THEIR PUNISHING THEIR OWN PEOPLE FOR THEIR GREED BY USING IT AS AN EXCUSE TO TAKE AWAY THEIR LIBERTIES AND FREEDOM!!!!!!!!! Team America - World Police ain't so far from the truth. so why can the US be planning to invade iran - a country they were helping to arm and develop until a few years ago???? what could the reason be??? lmfao. OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL,OIL!!!!!!!!

tell you another thing - I'd trust the Iranians with a neuclear bomb long before I'd trust the US or UK Government.

another couple of points:

is it not strange that the "plane" that hit the Pentagon was almost completely disintegrated to the point that there wasn't one single piece of debris that could be matched 100% with that "plane" but they managed to identify all the human bodies apart from 8 of them??? surely steel and aluminium is far tougher and harder to disintegrate than human flesh???

why havent they released the video tapes of the "plane" hitting the pentagon??? are you trying to tell me that the only tapes available are the 7 frames that they released which are totally inconclusive. one of the most heavily guarded and surveyed buildings in the entire world??? surely if all of us "conspiracy nuts" and "traitors" are to be silenced the simple thing to do would be to release the video surveylance tapes???

why is it that the only buildings in HISTORY to have been brought down by "fire" were the three (one of them approx 1/3 mile from the two towers and totally untouched in the plane crashes) that were owned by Larry Silverstein and the three where the private security was run by Jeb Bush (wee brother of the president).

why did the FDNY state that they found 3 of the 4 "black boxes" from the 2 towers hit by the planes but the government stated that NONE of the black boxes were ever recovered and in fact had been totally disintegrated in the crashes.

how come, if the impacts could bring down to re-inforced steel buildings and completely destroy the 4 black boxes (which were made of the strongest material known to mankind), they managed to find a "terrorists" passport on the ground after all the dust had settled???? what the phuq??? 4 black boxes, no human remains atall, 3 steel re-inforced buildings all completely obliterated but a terrorists passport (made of really tough, re-inforced PAPER) managed to survive the impact/fireball and steel melting temperatures???

how come 9 of the "terrorists" that flew the planes are still alive and well - 2 of them living have been living and identified in the USA????

how come US government spending on the "War On Terror" has more than doubled the defence budget and the "Patriot act" that was brought in allows the US government to arrest and interogate people for an unlimited time for protesting but at the same time, the US border to mexico remains open and unguarded and its estimated that over 500 people from the mexican border enter the US illegally EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!! so much for making the country safer.

why is it that Larry Silverstein (a close family friend of the Bush family) insured the buildings that came down against a terrorist attack for $200,000,000.00 (2 hundred million dollars) but claimed an estimated $7,000,000,000,000.00 (7 BILLION US dollars).

why is US taxpayer monies being used to rebuild the WTC complex for Larry Silverstein - surely he should be paying for the rebuild himself if he claimed the insurance payout.

why is it that the only 3 buildings at WTC to have "terrorist situation evacuation rehearsals" in the 2 weeks running up to the 9/11 attacks were larry silversteins buildings.

isnt it strange that ALL of the indictments againts the US government, CIA and FBI had been recently moved to building 7 before it came down and ALL of the indictments have been dropped now as there is no paperwork left to proceed with them???

What happened to the gold in the vaults of WTC centre?????

why was the 9/11 comission given a budget of $600,000.00 (six hundred thousand dollars) but the bill clinton blow-job inquest was given $40,000,000.00 (forty million US dollars) as a budget????

why did the US government NOT allow any of the top level government to be questioned by the 9/11 comission??? (although they later relented and allowed them to question Condeleezza Rice, National Security Advisor, for a total time of 8 minutes and on the understanding that the 9/11 comission did NOT investigate ANY other US government officials after she was questioned??

lmfao!!!!! STILL beleive that osama dunit??? - lol

open your eyes folks. look for yourselves and see. george orqells 1984 is already being worked into place and they're using the police/armed forces to enforce "Homeland Security" on the strength of this bulls**t.
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