Originally posted by Crook:
Ahh well, there we differ in the strongest possible way. It isn't. Credit or no, permission from the original artist should come first. An entirely new clone of a model is fine, but a direct conversion, even with editing, requires permission.
......So it'd be fine if I say, took that Saratoga model (which is absolutely goddamn awesome, BTW) from the site and used it as a template to extrude every face, nudge every vertex and chamfer every edge on a box until it was absolutely, totally identical to the original 'toga down to the smallest fraction of a point of each co-ord for every vertex on every subobject of the model. But if I just stripped the textures and called it new it'd be wrong?
As long as I put some effort into my blatant theft, it's okay?
Without that permission it becomes a free-for-all, which is not the intent of the internet.
Don't even start on the 'intent of the internet'. It was designed so the US could maintain it's ability to nuke the shit out of anyone who decided to take out one of their cities.
But with so much piracy around, who's going to fully protect digital artists? I for one am on their side, and what they say goes.
I agree. If someone saying "don't use my stuff", then their stuff shouldn't be used. But if they put it up for download and just say "Here. Use this" then it's pretty much their own fault if someone screws with it.
Maybe they want to keep their work for a personal portfolio. Spread across the net it could damage someones chances of a job, or freelance work etc etc. We have to give them the right to say 'no'.
If they post something on the internet for everyone to see without saying "don't redistribute mye stuff", they forfeit the right to 'keep their work for a personal portfollio'.
It'd be like me throwing a drop of water into the ocean and saying "Right, stay right there". If I don't put it inside some kind of non-water-soluble capsule, it's my own fault when it wander off and gets breathed in by a fish.
But if someone intentionally pops the non-water-solluble capsule, then it'd be fine for me to bitch.
Okay, I'm starting to confuse myself with all the extended metaphors.
If you just put something on the internet, the default is that people can take it and share it. If you tell them not to, then they shouldn't.